Talk:Abilities by Job Type

First try to update this page

 * While this page is outdated with very ld information I will try to update it to a actual state. But I am not really sure which way the future table should look.
 * First try follows below
 * only warrior skills
 * only skills that can be fused (I think Fast Lerner skills should get an extra table)
 * mentioned cards are only summoned cards (no fodder)
 * Please lets discuss what will make sense or not:
 * Possible Changes:
 * Single tables per class and element
 * Single tables per class and Main-type (Single/Area/Cone)
 * Single table for the columns with only one or two entries


 * Here my first try:


 * While I commend your efforts, if we cram more information, it starts looking like the table of ability cards with the job-type sorted by default. I think keeping it simple with the ability (and not the cards) is the way to go.

Something like: == Warrior == * Flame Sword * Flameblast * Here Comes the Hurt.


 * Good point. I really find the table to big too, and its only one of five. Only tried to adapt the given page in an other style. Just started and wondered how fast it grows. One point to your option, what is the difference to Category:Warrior Abilities then, except its a conclusion of all five categories? At least this whole page will become a superflous duplicate of these categories. Btw is it possible to make views on different categories on one page? Then this page will get really easy with all five Job-categories among themselves.
 * Something like (but with the category listing, not only the links):
 * * Category:Warrior Abilities
 * * Category:Mage Abilities
 * * Category:Ranger Abilities
 * * Category:Monk Abilities
 * * Category:Support Abilities
 * --Lydhia (talk) 17:48, 12 September 2017 (UTC)


 * I was thinking something like the following, adding info that isn't in the table of cards.


 * Could make the info more concise too (I just grabbed the whole description text). The max stats at max rarity could also be incorporated for comparison purposes. --BryghtShadow (talk) 07:11, 13 September 2017 (UTC)


 * looks really good. And it should easily be tranformable for the other table Abilities by Element (Only change the element orb to job icon). I think with some extra input to the questions below I can start to realize this. Open points:
 * All abilities or all without "Lesser" ?
 * The point with max damage/break --> adding this will cause three extra columns (max lvl (should be important than because some abilities only goes to lvl 8 (4+ cards)) - max attack - max break). Too much information than again?
 * --Lydhia (talk) 09:35, 13 September 2017 (UTC)


 * I think that the table would work better when grouped by type (e.g. "ST", "Cone", "Area", "Area+BDD", "ST+CRD", "ST+DF", etc).
 * Lesser abilities have their own set of base numbers, so maybe they could be included. But that would make the table larger, and contest the showing of ability stats at max rarity only. Perhaps then, it would be better to just go back to simpler.
 * "Damage focus" tag is probably redundant when displaying the attack+break columns, but idk. --BryghtShadow (talk) 13:19, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
 * To answer an earlier question "Btw is it possible to make views on different categories on one page?" Not without use of certain extensions (e.g. DPL, SMW, Cargo), or category pages (which can only list the pages). The currently installed "mw:Extension:CategoryTree" can be used to list all the pages in a category, but we have less control over the resulting list: . --BryghtShadow (talk) 13:48, 13 September 2017 (UTC)