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Since User:Gousha took a little (i hope) break, I have to ask you instead. Because i don't have rights to do that.
Can i ask you to add Mobius FF Discord url (https://discord.gg/mobiusff) to MediaWiki:Sidebar right after reddit url?
Done. Sorry it took some days. No time for it at work and no interest in wasting sparetime. Hope I am done with all the last missing cards now too.
Thanks for your help, I really appreciate it.
Hey, just curious. Why is it that the specific job pages do not have their HoF panels if they have a HoF?
Would it be better if the Job Cards page were to be pulling its info from the Job Specific pages? I know it would require some work and changes. I think if we were to section off in the job specific pages (auto-ability, ult buffs, hof), We can pull that info into the Job Cards page table. Just a thought.
Hi. My i ask you a question? Do you know a way to extract images from the game in such good quality as in the links above? All images uploaded by me are taken from dataminers or from screenshots, and i'm not satisfied with their quality.
All my images are based on screens. I tried and searched 2 times to datamine it by myself but never found a correct way. so I think I cannot help you with this problem.
Hi, I used to go full screen / full hd the game, then screenshot the card, so it's a pretty neat image you'll got.
I do the same thing. All of my pics are screen shots from an iPad Air, often with some post-editing resizing. However, BryghtShadow may have a method, since he's finding graphics at native resolutions. I'd love to find out from where, though I suspect it's on the Windows/Steam version.
Dataminers on reddit upload really interesting things, but most of them are useless. Images of jobs and abilities, for example, without borders.
Icons are almost the only thing that you can use without image editing. More icons
Yeah, I only have access to those icons and job thumbnails. >_< For other stuff, I work with screenshots from my Nexus 5 (1920x1080).
I'll be stepping away for vacation for the rest of the month, so I will likely miss the Yojimbo, the Blade of Vengeance ranking event. I'll try to get a framework page up before I go. If you've a mind, put in any details that you might gather. (I'll ask User:Magisterxan to do the same.) I'll take what notes I can, and hopefully assemble a map in October. Same with FFX Episode 3.
Really don't know if I can handle this - better he will do. There is less time this month for me too and I am really bad in collecting and handle map/event specific informations. I keep it in mind, but I am not sure if I will get it.
hey lydhi are ya still busy on this wiki? if so in what type of jobs should i add or put Ascentic monk ex jobs? pls reply on my profile for notifications thx.
Thank you for catching my typos! I'm glad you folks are still looking over my shoulder as I add things.
no problem - only saw the changes and it feels false with the 50 on first position. Maybe you can fix the 2 values for the abilities too (if you still know them?). I mean the requirements for the abilities - while filling it with data I only could set there a 4 star as requirement but it should be something like 1 star/1 star or 1 star / 2 star for the first 2 abilities. Maybe something worse with changing values.
Ah, now I see it. Missed that, too. Both were available from the beginning. Fixed now.
Hi ^^. Since you're mostly handling card image uploads, reminder to upload files to the naming of "Card <card number> EN <Name of Card>.png". If the card number isn't known, it's better to hold off on uploading to placeholder names to reduce the number of page moves (which leaves traces in the deletion log etc etc).
I added the list of backlinks (i.e. What Links Here) to files that haven't been uploaded yet (i.e. Wanted Files). The filenames should get the "EN" added. List is on community portal.
its a bit tricky with the "_EN_". The time I started to update the card-images over half an year ago I thought about localized card images with "_EN_" "_DE_" "_FR_" for transalted pages. But the effort is still to big with this amount of cards. So the "_EN_" cards became a symbol for cards I uploaded in the "normed" 940x1280 format. And all other cards that are not normed without the "_EN_". state of now its 1.967 normed "_EN_" images out of 2.069 uploaded out of 2.364 possible. I know its stupid but because I coulndt do the initial thought it got a good sign for me which card I need to handle and which not. And it was to much effort to change it back.
Like wrote in community portal I should have fixed all links and existing card pictures that missed the "_EN_". I know that I needed around 100 pages moves for this, but I think it was less work than removing and moving the (useless) "_EN_" from about 2000.
Template:Weapon stats :D Currently only Guard Stick uses it. It also doesn't do any stat automation (i.e. all input must be manually filled in, even if the stats remain flat like HP+0). It should hopefully make filling in of stats easier. I've also oped for comma-separated values as opposed to // like every other array-accepting infobox. If it's okay, we can roll it out on all the weapons but i think some testing for edge cases needs to be done.
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IIRC, total mods counts the number stats (HP,ATK, BRK,MAG), and crystal mods (CRT,SPD,DEF, and 4 abilities). So 111-ish mods to get a Truescale★5.
I have plans on including the calculation for mods required.
mmh if I look on my 4 weapons I boost I cant find the right too. But my calculation wrote above comes really near.
Onimaru (+900/+90/+80/+166) shows 34 current modifications (calculated 35.5)
Gigant Axe (+680/+52/+42/+114) shows 23 current modifications (calculated 23)
Kaiser Knuckles (+880/+76/+44/+106) shows 26 current modifications (calculated 26.16)
Hermit Cane (+980/+82/+84/+124*) shows 32 current modifications(calculated 32.33)
<nowiki>*</nowiki>its +125 but last step was from 197% to 200%
except the Onimaru all 3 weapons hit the exact next integer if I add the missing boost till next mod (24/27/33 current mods)
the Onimaru seems to have +8 atk to much for the calculation, dont know why
Also I have one weapon I never modified (all +0) but it still shows "Current Modification: 2" (Cornucopia X)
I really tried to get through this stuff for days now but don't really find the right solution.
The MP weapon series will unlock all abilities before the stats are maxed. They require 14 to max all abilities, and 32 more to max all stats. 46 total.
Cornucopia has some mods already done for some reason ( Element Third Strike+4)
Also here's a calculator: https://zekareisoujin.github.io/MFFWeaponCalc/
Correction to above post. Mods shown on the weapon tooltip will only show the crystal mods (crit, speed, def, abi 1-4). Seed mods (HP, ATK, BRK, MAG) do not count. For brevity I'll refer to them as crystal stats/mods and seed stats/mods.
ah ok this makes it a bit clearer for me. after my last post I saw that my Onimaru already has all crystal mods, so it stops counting at the 34. So now there is no 6-count for crystal mod anymore and I can only boost the seed-mods? thx for your help.
https://mobius.gamepedia.com/index.php?title=Weapons&oldid=72517#Table_of_weapons aaaah whyyy ;_;
Icons too large IMO.
Well, it's not just the icons size, but I think "table of weapons" should be a sortable table (like the ability card table). The vertical design would suit the individual weapon pages.
maybe something like this? My main cause to find a solution is to "force" the used layout and icon_name (later maybe job with "...(job)" or weapon with "...(weapon)", because evrybody adding info used his own style.
If this will be better/fine then I only need a decision if we want all in one table or if they should seperated by job.
This could be a solution for stand-alone tables:
This could be a solution for stand-alone tables in a tabber: (ok tabber doesn't seem to work in comment but on a page)
(Personally, I'm not a fan of tabber)
Something like the above with single table, or separated by job-types would be good.
Hi~ If it's not too difficult, could you also add the regular boon icons? :)
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Regular as in the square shaped ones, if you ever come across any. Hexagonal ones are the "enhanced" versions.
damn. why I was afraid of something like that. So what will be a good solution?
I was sure that it will be a hard thing to get structure in this but such hard?
Other questions I found while startig yesterday:
For the numbers on the boon-icons - I think I will startto get them too so we will have a base of icons starting and can change them later if someone finds a not-numbered icon.
Making a status effect page for some structure.
At the moment I try to test the abilities causing the 4 boons I just edited yesterday and try to get as much screens I can get. So I think I will upload some new icons then later and will take the file-names of your first suggestio. But before I will do it wrong: this will mix up boon and ailment icons because of the missing (boon)/(ailment)-tag? For me this should be no problem because in the end these all are buffs/boons/effects - positive and negative...
So in the end we will have something like:
Just taking pictures and testing now, think will do some major edits for this in the evening, if I'll have time.
If the boon is actually called "Immune to Debrave", then file can be named "Immune to Debrave.png" or "Immune to Debrave (effect).png".
Hi! Before you move to the below-1000 card images, I think we should go without zero-padding the card numbers like "File:Card 0001 EN Dust Soldier Fire 1.png". Just in case MFF ever reaches 10000 cards, which means we'll have to rename all the 9999 cards to start with a zero.
Resolution: My Android does 870x1184 resolution, so I can upload those if I have the card. I own 1242 of 1721 atm (some can be easily obtained, like sicarius).
Looking through my catalog, the largest is Undine at 1853kb, smallest is Security Ramuh Squad at 524kb. It might be possible to shrink these with PNG optimization.
I think where possible go with 870px. Otherwise, we'll just make do with smaller resolutions.
o god now you said something. just tested with the phone and can get 940x1279 there (never thought its so much higher than my monitor) but this doesnt go well for me. first its a act to do a good screen there (with this hand-edge-side-wipeing-thing) and second the blue buttons for prev/next cards are over the pictures, because of the method to do the screens the card isnt centered anymore :( In steam its much easier: F12 - push next card - F12 - push next card ...
hand-edge-side-wishing-thing? blue buttons over pictures? Hmm... my unmodified screenshots look like https://imgur.com/7ulHCAf
I also have a script to do the cropping for me.
the only way I know to make a screen on my phone is to wipe (not wish) with the edge of the hand from the right to the left over the screen. Google says something about Home+Power too but that doesnt seem to work. So if I do the wish thing the app thinks I want to scroll the card to the next page and is faster than the screen is made. :(
And with the blue buttons I mean these bottom buttoms to get the next card. they are right next and a bit over the card - not with so much space like you have there.
ok. I need to stop the proceed for some days and rework the actual state with new pictures and update them. will take a while but I think better now, while I am still in the first half of work, than later.
pfff i've had it with helping out wikipedia and editing and updating the information to help you guys out with decent standards , but i rlly can't stand fuckfaces like PP2000 guy who talks shit and post stupid shit like wtf mog amulet with ability tickets i'm so tilted but yeah w/e i'm done with updating it . my regards compared to other decent editors i wanted to thank you and lydhia and some others for the support and learning me some of the wiki stuff. also alotta people change stuff and add stuff and just leave it like that and it's fucking the page up like an ugly ass pile of shit. i know i fucked up too with the pictures and not deleting stuff , but atleast we have a guy cleaning that mess xd
Also lol sorry to always bother you with questions xD i guess nothing to do about it... and since you're like the big veteran editor i should ask you, any thoughts about skill panel cards ? are we gonna add a section on that part?
question what are we gonna do about the Ultimate Hero Lightning ? it's part of a job but than again it's a skin and has it's own stats and Ultimate attack where should i be putting this? adding a new section to job cards "Ultimate JOb" ? lmk also asked bryghtshadow what he thinks about it post back on my profile
The Ability has (Card) appended to the name
Could only say that I am not really fit with the jobs. Think I should have a look first on the informations about the card to understand what you mean.
well the discribtion is The pull is like a job card but it's a different category the card is not actually a card but a skin for any ranger job, when applied it also has different stuff on it , example : haste boost if i recall it comes with the skin card + ultimate changes into lightning rush or whatever it's called i don't have the card either. and you cannot really say this card is a new job card because it's a skin with the tag Ultimate Hero ( cards )
so i was wondering if we need to add new categories or something, also pls reply back on my profile because i can't see notifications if it's just reply on your own profile
yeah lydhia the monk jobs have Lores and those lores are lead from the monk jobs Defender job has ... lore Grappler has Ranger lore pugilist has Mage lore
the discription from monk trainee is not correct because it does not apply from the trainee monk jobs that you choose it only applies to the standard monk trainee job ( blank ) i don't know the reason behind this either but it doesn't rlly matter that much since magic is very low on trainee job , monk jobs overall
The Infobox Card Template needs to have a potential addition added.
I am far removed from Media Wiki's current back-end development (the #invoke Module Namespace), so will just provide the basics of the modification.
Each card has the "Primary" Job that can use it. As we all know, that play the game, the Monk job can use two jobs, the Monk ability cards and one other.
This request may fall by the wayside, but figured it should be denoted.
If I understand right the Monk can use more than the monk cards (and gains bonus for it). Thats new for me xD I think I need to read something about that in the future.
If you mention this, do you have any idea how to handle te multi-element ability pages (info boxes)? State of now it will affect Taunt (all elements), Stun (Wind and Dark) and Weaken (Earth and Light).
Ok teached myself a little bit last evening, now I saw that Monk gets bonusses for one others ability cards. never noticed this before.
Hi there, there's a prob, scroll cards from anniversary have exactly same names as the original ones (e.g. Dhampyr (Card) and Dhampyr Scroll without the "scroll" part of the name) In the sake of this I didn't link new scrolls from MP Ring of Braves list. What do we do?
Good question. saw this problem yesterday too. It's not only a problem with the new "Scroll" cards, they changed it for all scrolls (and their description and picture).
While putting some of them in the card list I still named them as Scrolls like before. I think this could be a good solution. An other option could be that we change the suffix (Card) to (Scroll) for all of them, so we have Centaur (Card) and Centaur (Scroll).
I totally didn't see that coming, now I have to re-upload every scroll pic ç_ç So how about old scrolls? Can we edit pagenames without creating anew? Or we leave things as they are and keep naming new ones "scroll"? (But that could lead to not finding those pages by unaware players) Damn Square ç_ç
Also I was (slowyly) keeping track of every material needed to augment cards and when I read "the amount of materials required to augment the card will be reduced" almost had an hearth attack, luckily it was the update already in effect since June: I'll upload that work as soon as it will be completed, getting lazy lately.
Last question: Since I haven't started yet Anniversary and FFXII events, is there something in particular I should keep track on?
hey buddy , are you going to post the First Anniversary, Part 1 map ? with all the rewards? i started the map already without checking the rewards .....
same prob for me. still on holiday with less time so I just started playing the map without collecting informations.
Guys I haven't started it yet, so take it easy :D
hey buddy , i've put up a few temporarily support template ( turn cooldown ) on ff12 support cards. could you make a new support template for 4*+ 5*+ ?
because they only have level 4/4 to 6/6ability
also the debuff cards
yes you fixed it , holy shit i've been looking about what i did wrong and i just couldn't figure it out xD
had to leave that for a pro >_> greeetz !
A small Note : could not add Sicarius Machina as a subcategory as Its the sicarius type for Ultima weapon + Hecatoncheir ( ingame discription ) when you left click hold to check their immunes it tells every sicarius their type
yes lydhia you are once again correct xD , you can change the minor things if they are not correct , don't worry i will check what you've changed if i say nothing next time you will know you are right :) been working these days had a rough day lol. + also i think the new ff XII debuff card has the 5* 3turns cooldown
Hy Lydhia, here to say that I (finally) completed the Terra Battle section. Also I added all scrolls images and I'll add plenty of summoned cards images in the next 2 days, so if you were going to update the missing images list, wait a bit, I'll also help you out checking and updating it, leaving final list edit to you (like last time). Just letting you know. Greets o/
man the ring of braves/item exchange has to be updated so much T_T
unfortunatly i don't have much time to do that with work + playing ff12 soon.all i can do is inform you with some stuff if you are going to edit it? Belias Summon ticket x8 belias component , ultima weapon summon tickets , prismatics and skillseeds has to be added etc. don't forget if you wanna reply leave something on my profile otherwise i will not get a notification of your awnsers updated few new pictures : belias cards 3* has all images // ranger 4* belias image added, kraken 4*image added. Did not add the Card nr. yet
you are totally right . my bad i thought Lesser fiend 3* has level 5 and 6 stats
but apparantly it changes into the next tier level (like lesser shinega to Shinega) my apoligies i didn't know that until i rewatched what you said. i also changed the edit back to normal
No problem. Only wanted to ask. Could also be possible that I am misinformed. There is so much stuff with each update that not accompany with former stats, like no more 1 star fiends, augmentable fast lerner cards and so on.
my friend , the new july Batch I cards that you have edited , the extra skills might be wrong (In addition, they also have extra skills such as Martial Flow and Charging Attack to gain even more benefits from normal attacks!)
Could be possible. I only done the initial page creation based on the infos of altema.jp. I do not really understand what you mean with Martial Flow and Charging Attack - if you look I created them with it: Martial Flow lvl5 extra skill; Charging attack lvl6 extra skill.
oh you're right , my bad i didn't check out the 4* and 5*
btw i've added 3 new jobs , tactician , highwind and legendary judge magister
bro is it possible to delete a page? i missed the name on ultima weapon can you awnser back on my profile so i can see the ping thx.
Hy Lydhia, I have to create Echo page from Terra Battle but the title of the page is mindtricking me, dunno which title give it since it's a common character (posted discussion in community portal talk but none replied). Your opinion? Asking you since you manage fiends. Greets
little heads up , there is an active event on facebook mobius page
5000 shares = 3summon tickets // 8000 comments = 8 crystals don't know if we can post it somewhere?
Really don't know where to put such stuff. I think its a better qeustion for User:BryghtShadow because he managed all Calendar and Event Stuff the last times (if I remember right). Or to aks it in the Community Portal.
did you mean card number ? for the card catalog ?
Yes. Only saw you scored Duncan card out in the list, but in the missing card number list and not the missing images list (I think I have done this before after your uploads). So I only wanted to know if you can add the card number too. Thanks for doing so now - I will move them between the tables soon.
no problem , updated the list to the extend of the cards that i have
i will let you further update the table ? thx ;)
moved them now in the upper list. Thx for your help.
Hi Lydhia, sorry, don't know how to contact you so I'm writing here:
I made a post on Community Portal few days ago (don't know if you saw it) to get some help to create a page, and since you're one of the most active and expert members I was wondering if you could help me. Greetings, Juilian01.
Hi Juilian. Don't really understand what you are planning to do and how I could help you. If its into creating some tables or fill it with given data I can do so, but if its going into layout thing like creating nice pages or templates for infoboxes I am out because I never done it before myself. Greetings
When I contacted you I was totally new to this so had no idea what to do. Did few edits and get the hang of it, then two days ago someone else created the page and today I edited it so there is no more need. Thanks anyway ^^